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Roundtable: Nick & Norah's Infinite Playlist

September 30th, 2008 (10:52 pm)
awake

Current Mood: awake
Current Song: Too Much to Live For by Lucy Woodward

In 2006, the young adult novel Nick & Norah's Infinite Playlist by Rachel Cohn and David Levithan quickly became a bestseller. Right away, it won the hearts of readers, then won literary praise and honors, including the first-ever Cybils Award for YA Fiction. Jackie and I (Little Willow) served on the Cybils YA panel that inaugural year, and will do so again this year. Now that Nick & Norah has been selected to be the book of the month at readergirlz (and we're both postergirlz for readergirlz), it has given us another excuse to talk about this fast-paced story. We had fun collaborating on this piece. We hope you'll enjoy the ride. Time to turn up the Playlist.

 

Are you more like Nick or more like Norah?


Little Willow
:
Nick, maybe. Like Nick, I write songs (but my music is unlike his) and I'm against drinking or doing anything that would harm my body or alter my awareness. Like Norah, I want to have full control over my life and my decisions.

Jackie: You know, I've been thinking about this question for awhile now, and I don't know the answer. I think maybe Nick, just because he seemed more awkward and unsure of himself, which is definitely something I can identify with.

 
Have you ever taken an impulsive trip to or through a big city?

 
Little Willow:
I can't say that I have. I don't have an impulsive bone in my body! This book let me travel through a night in New York, somewhere I've never been. (Someday, Broadway! You're gonna hear from me!)

Jackie: OOO. One of the BEST road trips I've had was with my best friend in high school and college. We just got in the car and drove east. No destination. No reservations. No expectations. Some camping gear and maps. I think I have more crazy memories from that one trip than many other trips combined. We started in Grand Rapids, MI and ended up in Boston, but didn't really spend any time there before we had to come back. We also hit Albany, Toronto, Niagra Falls, and Quebec (which was very disarming). Not in that order, though. All in one week. It was fantastic. I should plan LESS, now that I reminded about how impulsive that was.

 
What was your favorite part of the book?

Jackie: Well, I've thought a lot about Borscht since reading the novel. Haven't broken down and had it yet. I blame my childhood horror of beets.


Little Willow: I have never had borscht, though I like beets. I bought a can of shoestring beets today, in fact.

Jackie: I'm less afraid of beets these days. Especially the non-red ones I see at the farmer's markets.


Little Willow:
Seriously, though, my favorite moments include

the Absolution of Nick, the consideration and explanation of tikkun olam, the rain, and the very end.

Jackie: My most vivid memory of the book is of the ice machine scene, but overall my FAVORITE is simply the sense of how amazing, unexpected, and life-altering one night can be. I think it is actually the contemplative moments near the end that really capture that. It was so well done.

Have you read any other books by Cohn or Levithan?

Jackie: I've read their other collaboration, Naomi & Ely's No Kiss List (which didn't quite live up to the admittedly high bar of N&N). I've also read Cohn's Cupcake and You Know Where to Find Me. I've been meaning to read more Levithan for ages, but haven't managed to get around to it, so I've only read the modern classic that is Boy Meets Boy. I know that I'd love them all, but, well, time. Sigh.

Little Willow: I know that you have a huge stack of books to read, Jac, but I hope that you'll add more books by these authors to the top of that pile. If you liked Cupcake, then you simply must read Shrimp and Gingerbread, the other two books in the CC trilogy by Rachel Cohn. I've read all of their individual novels plus their two collaborative novels. Rachel's books feel real. David's writing has this amazing poetic quality, and he tends to employ very thoughtful narrators. Levithan has also contributed to or edited a number of anthologies.

Jackie: I really want to read Wide Awake and Marley's Ghost, but I just haven't picked them up. I want to see Cohn do a graphic novel. Of course now that MINX is gone (boo! hiss! you didn't give the line enough time DC!), that seems less likely.

 

Little Willow: Oh, I would love to see what she would write for a graphic novel! Have you seen David's contribution in the anthology First Kiss (Then Tell)?

Jackie: No. I tend to avoid things with Kiss actually in the title. Also, not a huge anthology or short story reader. I'm always disappointed I can't spend more time with the characters I love so quickly in short stories, so I avoid the inevitable pain.

Little Willow: Tell is fun, and it has a lot of authors you know and love . . . Nudge, nudge.

 
Do you have any personal anthems?


Little Willow:
Since I'm the music-obsessed person who put forth that question, let me tell you how I define personal anthems: favorite songs that capture something that happened to
me or something important about me. One of my personal anthems is "The Middle" by Jimmy Eat World, which conveys my optimism and patience:

 

It just takes some time

Little girl, you're in the middle of the ride

Everything, everything will be just fine

Everything, everything will be all right, all right

Jackie: When I drove across country, alone, to move to a new city where I knew no one, I had most of my friends and family create mixed CDs for me to listen to on the way out. I found my personal anthem for that period of my life in the first mixed CD I listened to. It's "Extraordinary Machine" by Fiona Apple:

If there was a better way to go then it would find me
I can't help it, the road just rolls out behind me
Be kind to me, or treat me mean
I'll make the most of it, I'm an extraordinary machine


I'm seeing some similarities between your song and mine, LW.

 

If you had to create a playlist that captured the feeling and events of 2008 so far, would you know what to put on it? Name one of the songs you'd use.

Jackie: Oh, that's a tough one. I don't know if I can only pick one... So... I won't. Here are two:

- "Wow and Flutter" by
April Smith because there has been a lot of personal change for me this year, and I think there's something in Smith's lyrics that reflects all those changes. Plus, it's just totally fun to listen to.


-
Ingrid Michaelson. Not one song. All of them. Every last one of them means something to me this year.

Apparently, I've got something for singer/songwriter chicks from NYC. Huh. I wonder what that says. At least that part matches the book some... (Jackie grins.)
 

Little Willow: I like making playlistsI made one for Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist, in fact. For my personal 2008 playlist, I might select "Too Much To Live For" by Lucy Woodward.

N&N is definitely for older teens. Have you seen or heard any opposition to the book? Does it make you cautious
when recommending it?


Jackie: I honestly haven't had any personal, real life, objections to the book, but I've heard a lot of complaining online about the language. Since I swore a lot when I was N&N's age, I can't say that I'm really one to critizice on that front. It isn't a book I'd give to just anyone though. I'd really have to have a feel for them. This is, of course, if the book was ever on the shelf, which it hasn't been since the movie trailer started to play.


Little Willow:
I don't swear. I'm not kidding when I say that I live a G-rated life. N&N is no less than PG-13. Due to language and
certain situations and scenes, I tend it give
N&N to people over, say, 15 years of age.  I haven't had any customers respond negatively to it after reading it. I've had some good chats with readers about this book. In fact, I now know of at least four different teens that have become Levithan followers. We passed around How They Met earlier this year and discussed that as well.

How do you feel about the new cover for the paperback? It's a lot different from the original?

Jackie: I'm pretty "meh" about it. I think way fewer guys will pick it up now with that heart on it. And that's a shame.

Little Willow: I like both covers. I think the first one is more gender-neutral and suited to the punk-rock blurred-night fast-happenings feel of the book. However, I love purple and I love cityscapes, so I really like the look of the paperback cover. The movie cover is cute, too. I wish that the flyers and posters had the proper name beside the proper person! Michael's name is beside Kat, and Kat's name is beside Michael. Speaking of which...


Do you plan on seeing the movie? How do you think the movie will compare to the book?

Jackie: I'm so there. I'm braced for significant change, but I'm hoping since it's been some time since I've read the book that it will simply be true to the SPIRIT of the novel. That'll probably be good enough for me. What I fear is that all the best parts are in the preview, and that there's nothing else to see... 
 

Little Willow: I saw a screening towards the end of September. I knew in advance some of the things that had been changed - the trailers and casting gave some of that way - but I don't want to spoil anything for you. Would you like to talk about the movie after you've seen it and compare it to the book?

Jackie: Yep.

(Little Willow grins.)

 


Related Posts and Fun Times:

readergirlz: October 2008: Nick & Norah's Infinite Playlist
The Cybils 2006 YA Nominations
The Cybils 2006 YA Finalists
The Cybils 2006 YA Hall of Fame
Interactive Reader Book Review: Nick & Norah's Infinite Playlist

Bildungsroman Book Review: Nick & Norah's Infinite Playlist

Bildungsroman Book Playlists
Bildungsroman Book Roundtables
Bildungsroman: Multiple Narrators Booklist
Bildungsroman 2006 Interview with Rachel Cohn & David Levithan

Bildungsroman 2007 Interview with Rachel Cohn & David Levithan
Sara's Holds Shelf: If You Love Nick & Norah, You Might Also Like...

Comments

Posted by: brimstonesoup.blogspot.com (ext_105949)
Posted at: October 1st, 2008 03:37 pm (UTC)
Love it!

Great discussion, ladies - I almost got to go to a screening with Martha but couldn't make it (wah!). I never thought about short stories that way before, but I think I agree.

Posted by: Little Willow (slayground)
Posted at: October 1st, 2008 05:19 pm (UTC)
Re: Love it!

Levithan does great work with his short stories.

I read fewer short stories / anthologies than I do novels, that's for sure.

Sorry that you couldn't go to the screening! I hope that you get to see the movie. If so, tell me what you think!

Posted by: readergirlz (readergirlz)
Posted at: October 1st, 2008 04:39 pm (UTC)

I'm sorry I missed the table!!!!! You two did an awesome job. Thanks!

Lorie Ann Grover, rgz diva/author
http://lorieanngrover.blogspot.com

Posted by: Little Willow (slayground)
Posted at: October 1st, 2008 05:21 pm (UTC)

Thanks for reading it. :)

Posted by: anghara (anghara)
Posted at: October 1st, 2008 05:19 pm (UTC)

"Do you have any personal anthems?"

I didn't really think about that until recently... until I discovered Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah".

That last verse, now, is my anthem - perhaps just slightly amended -

"And even if it all goes wrong
I'll stand before the Lord of Song
With nothing on my tongue but Hallelujah...

Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah"

Writing has been good to me. Hallelujah.

Posted by: Little Willow (slayground)
Posted at: October 1st, 2008 05:26 pm (UTC)

Nice choice. According to Wikipedia, there have been more than 120 covers of the song. I've heard a few - Jeff Buckley, Anthony Michael Hall, Rufus Wainwright.

Posted by: tracymarchini.com (ext_121480)
Posted at: October 1st, 2008 07:28 pm (UTC)

Nick & Norah is one of my all-time favorite YAs. I'm actually a bit hesitant to see the movie, because I worry that no matter how good it is, it won't be able to compare to the book. And, because I picture a different looking Nick than Michael Cera...

Posted by: Little Willow (slayground)
Posted at: October 1st, 2008 08:45 pm (UTC)

I had a different picture of Nick in my mind, too. Tell me if you see the movie! I want to hear what you think of it.

Posted by: jackieparker (jackieparker)
Posted at: October 2nd, 2008 02:08 am (UTC)

Always a risk for beloved books.

Posted by: Little Willow (slayground)
Posted at: March 30th, 2009 11:07 pm (UTC)

How did this comment remain hidden until now?!

Posted by: Patrick Roberts (ext_83464)
Posted at: October 11th, 2008 10:05 pm (UTC)

there were some awkward moments in this movie that were hard to get past... such as every time that gum was passed around (yuck!)

Posted by: Little Willow (slayground)
Posted at: October 11th, 2008 11:15 pm (UTC)

I would have thrown the gum away!

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